http://www.one.org Dixie Peach: Without a clue

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Monday, March 13, 2006

Without a clue

Sorry, non-knitters. I have to talk about knitting for a moment because I need a little assistance but you're welcome to read on if you're bored, want to learn about knitting or are feeling particularly masochistic.

Now, as for you yarn types:

I need a little help with lace knitting. I've not done it before but I think I get how it should go. I've also never - gulp! - knitted anything where I had to make decreases. I am hooked on the rectangle!

Anyway, I'd like to knit Cozy from Knitty and I seem to be bollocksing up something and I need to get this straight before I buy actual silk and make it for real (right now I'm practicing with some scrap wool).

Anyway, one is to cast on 85 stitches and the pattern goes in multiples of six stitches plus one. The pattern calls for the first stitch of the odd numbered rows to be knitted - that takes care of the plus one. The rest of the pattern is for 84 stitches in multiples of six so that means I'd be making 14 repeats. I suck at math and all but even I can figure out that much.

Wait - let me get out the calculator and double check.

Anyway I have cast this thing on three times now. I count and recount and I know I've cast on 85 stitches. My problem is I don't get 14 rounds of repeats. I knit along and end up, for example on the first row, with 4 stitches left and I need more than that for a pattern round.

So let me tell you what I'm doing and one or all of you tell me what I'm doing wrong.

This is the pattern for the first row:

Row 1: K1, [YO, k2tog tbl, k1, k2tog, YO, k1] to end.

This is what I'm doing:

I knit the 1st stitch. I do a yarn over on the 2nd stitch. I knit together the 3rd and 4th stitches through their back loops. I knit the 5th stitch. I knit together the 6th and 7th stitches. I do a yarn over on the 8th stitch. I knit the 9th stitch.

I can see right there that I've used up 9 stitches instead of 7 like the pattern is making me think I should. Obviously I either can't read this pattern or I am doing something wrong. What am I doing wrong? I'm supposed to do this repeat pattern until the end of the row but I only have four stitches at the end of the row and I can't do the whole repeat pattern with just four stitches.

Let's take another row where I don't know my ass from my elbow about what I'm doing:

Row 3: K1, [YO, k1, sl1, k2tog, psso, k1, YO, k1] to end.

This is what I do:

I knit the 1st stitch. I do a yarn over with the 2nd stitch. I knit the 3rd stitch. I slip the 4th stitch knitwise from the left to the right needle. I knit together the 5th and 6th stitches. I take the 4th stitch that I slipped to the right needle and pass it over the 5th and 6th stitches I knit together. I knit the 7th stitch. I do a yarn over with the 8th stitch. I knit the 9th stitch.

Again, this doesn't come out evenly.

I got to this row:

Row 7: K2tog, [k1, YO, k1, YO, k1, sl1, k2tog, psso] to last 5 sts, k1, YO, k1, YO, k1, k2tog tbl.

and felt like finding the nearest brick wall on which I could slam my head repeatedly.

Essentially the only rows I'm not screwing up are the even rows where I purl only.

If any of y'all know what I'm doing wrong or can explain how to do this right, let me know. Email me if you don't want to leave a comment.

Okay, you non-knitters can join the class again. Knit talk is over. Let me say I'm proud of you for behaving yourself while standing in the hallway.

Nothing new for an update on the weekend. It snowed. I watched movies and finished off the first season of Gilmore Girls on DVD. I knitted. Both of the baby blankets I was working on are finished.

Oops. Lied when I said knit talk was over.

8Comments:

Anonymous Belinda said...

Dixie the YO should add an extra stitch. So each time you yarn over you're actually adding a stitch before that k2tog.

So

Knit stitch 1
Yo
Knit sts 2 and 3 together

I haven't give this a go yet because I'm struggling badly with my own attempt at lace knitting lol :|

But I think that should fix it.

7:41 AM  
Anonymous Belinda said...

Ok I just tried and I just finished row 3.

At the end of row one I ended up with 1 extra stitch which I just knit.

at the end of row 3 I ended up with 4 extra so I just continued the pattern until the K2tog.

I guess you do just end up with extra sts and you continue with the pattern set till you run out of sts. I don't think it's meant to be a certain amount of sets. Ultimately you will end up with extra.....it really bugs me when it happens though so I can understand your need for closure LOL

gah....frogging now :|

8:27 AM  
Blogger christina said...

*runs away screaming*

Too much math! It would take me 7 years to figure that one out. I haven't even untangled my sock yarn yet and I think I've already lost one of the double pointed needles.

That cozy pattern is so pretty though. This gal, Snowball, does lace knitting all the time. I bet she could help you. I don't "know" her, but she seems really nice and approachable.

12:06 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Hm. Cozy looks good.
Can't wait to see how it turns out. :)
Is the Gilmore Girls really good? I've never seen a show one but everyone is talking about it.

4:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dix, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, but I'm glad to see you indeed "do math"....you just don't know it.

Cheers, Mary Ann :)

5:10 PM  
Blogger jen said...

forget the knitting. i have no clue as i usually get my knit goods from my sister. its really the only way to knit.

However, gilmore girls... i have all five seasons and i watch them over and over again. I'm sad because they haven't finished season six so i know it will be at least september before its on amazon.

6:05 PM  
Blogger BarefootCajun said...

I posted this on the porch earlier but I wanted to make sure you see it:

I know, I know! (and I'm shocked that I know)


quote:
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Row 1: K1, [YO, k2tog tbl, k1, k2tog, YO, k1] to end.

This is what I'm doing:

I knit the 1st stitch. I do a yarn over on the 2nd stitch. I knit together the 3rd and 4th stitches through their back loops. I knit the 5th stitch. I knit together the 6th and 7th stitches. I do a yarn over on the 8th stitch. I knit the 9th stitch.

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You're doing the YO and including it with a stitch instead of letting the YO become a single stitch and not associating it with one of the existing stitches. Do I make sense?

Here's what you should do:

Knit the 1st stitch, YO, knit 2nd and 3rd stitch together, knit 4th stitch, knit 5th and 6th stitch together, YO, and knit 7th stitch. That gives you a total of that first K1 and then 6 other stitches.

Do I win a prize?

8:51 PM  
Blogger Ginnie said...

Please tell me, Dixie, that BarefootCajun wins the prize. I sure as heck am NOT doing the math!

11:08 PM  

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